Currently, the group has 9 active members named Leeteuk, Kim Heechul, Yesung, Shindong, Eunhyuk, Choi Siwon, Lee Donghae, Kim Ryeowook, and Chon Kyuhyun. He had guts, but he was a very good friend of mine. this is also not a comment on them as individuals or as a group, but a personal observation on the kpop fandom. lovechart; Feb 23rd 2021; K-POP; Super Junior EVER.LASTING.FRIEND tag list. While watching the video I was immediately struck by Shindong who did not match the usual physique of a Kpop idol. there's a lot of other things, but since they were a long time ago they could get a pass. more. yeah, i was thinking specifically about how adversely people reacted when shindong interacted with wendy and april, as well as how fandoms seem to flip flop between loving and hating heechul for promoting their girl group faves. Jul 27th 2022. If an individual makes a queerphobic, trans*phobic, misogynistic, racist, fatphobic, ableist, etc comment about a fictional . Dita Von Teese. If someone is comfortable with the way they are and theyre actually happy with their body, then they should just be left alone. But there are other problematic stuff, I really don't know anymore which ones are rumors or truth. Kyuhyun was also the main vocal for Super Junior. a list of problematic groups/soloists or problematic things they have done. don't let this video make you wanna never listen to them, they have good music, and if it makes you happy, go for it. !, P1harmony|SHINee|ITZY|ONF|Monsta X|Purple Kiss|KARD|ONEWE|Pentagon|Billlie|NCT Dream|Ghost9|GOT7, op probably thinks being called androgynous is an insult bc they think its gross if you say that a man looks feminine since men are supposed to look masculine and nothing else lol. There's nothing wrong with being androgenous looking. Taemin since going solo is aiming for the androgynous look and perspective tbh. Reactions 34,589 Posts 62,060 . that they never had to apologize, that they got away with it. you support pedophiles, huh?" bighit ended up releasing a statement saying they apologized for anyone who was offended and said they didnt purposely use the sample and that it happened because of the producer. What I said or did would not be undone. This piqued my image and upon googling him I was appalled. im just leaving a reply here to let fans know to do proper research, since a good amount of OPs claims have been disproven by the affected parties. a list of problematic groups/soloists or problematic things they have done. I truly didnt know that this was such a big problem within Kpop groups. so what are you going to say that shindong was in the wrong to say that Taemin fit the concept is going for well ????? How do they still have careers? What is the consensus on this Super Junior title? But along the way, he defended the latter's violent personality by stating that Kangin is the type who just couldn't stay away from fights, just for example, when he saw a guy harassing a woman. Great post! Feb 3, 2021. Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands. 2007 - 2023 6Theory Media, LLC. Likes. Two other members of Super Junior have been found fat-shaming. Totally different topic: Musical - adaptations of dramas! Please understand that what I'm trying to explain here is what most knetz (primarily women) think. Privacy Policy. Super Junior 10th album ballad masterpiece! 10 K-pop Idols Dominating 2023 With Their Multi-million Dollar Empires: JY Park, G-Dragon, More. . A decade after their debut as a sub-unit, Super Junior-D&E have finally released their first full Korean album. they've been my comfort band for half a decade now and will continue to do so, you never know, you might just enjoy their tunes Register yourself now and be a part of our community! Yes, saying problematic things about fictional characters still count because they, like you said, do not exist in a vacuum. Super Junior Heechul is once again criticized by K-netizens following his remarks. That's a long wait, softened by the fact the guys have been active in Japan as well. tl;dr a lot of theblas reaction to the hate towards super junior seems morality driven, because the "deserve it". like literally on top of him. I never seen another group get this hostile treatment aside of suju, really. 568), (Ep. And I dont really have an idea to what extent suju is in terms of being caught into controversies and lot of problems. Personally, I think a lot of the hate is simply because they aren't young and trendy anymore and the fact that they are one of the older groups still left, It's OK though because it doesn't change the fact that they were part of the Hallyu wave and that's kinda legendary whether people want to admit it or not. Were my classmates a bunch of molesters? , if there are any groups or their actions that I missed please let me know by replying or messaging me, youtube playlist with problematic idols actions, in the process of adding things they have done. labelling everything as "problematic" doesn't really account for that. Age as an argument is makes no sense to me. ELF aren't active -- it's easy to hate on something if you know you won't get much shit for doing it. yet the hate towards super junior, seems almost flippant. Truly, utterly amazing. P1Harmony 5th Mini Album 'HARMONY : SET IN' OUT NOW!! add this to the unfortunate comments and actions certain members have said, or are thought to have said, and super junior go from being old men to being lecherous old men. it's not lie that super junior are past their peak. Honestly, these antis and ex-fan can't get SUPER Junior out of their minds. The girl was there with . Who woulda though? so while thinking this, i realized there were some very obvious reasons under the guise of "super junior are bad and that's that" and i listed them below. Op, you seem pretty young, but it's not the first time that you twist a situation and try to make an inexistent point. LMAO you again and your ex-suju fan agenda. allkpop is a registered trademark of 6Theory Media, LLC. ", Thirdly, Heechul also spoke against Korea's hostility to Japan and describe it as "b*llshit.". like if you say "i dont think this is pedophilia" they can easily turn it on you and say "oh, so you don't beleive victims? Maybe he poorly phrased it, or perhaps the translation wasn't the best, as it tends to happen and lead to misunderstandings (I saw no Korean fans getting mad at this). of course people hate super junior, we all do. Super Junior member Shindong has drawn major online flak after his supposed commentary on Taemin's music video ' Advice ' went viral. People need to leave him alone and let history be history. super junior's problematic past (a powerpoint) (slightly outdated!!) 4. super junior have said/done problematic* things -- this reasoning is last because while its often tauted as the reason for disliking them, this reason is the most flimsy, especially considering who we all stan. A group of girls still tried it the first night. If you would like to use all features of this site, it is mandatory to enable JavaScript. they've either apologized or received pushback, either internationally or from korean fans. Yeesung, another member of Super Junior has stated that he thinks obese people are lazy. Look, I'm not a SUJU or Shindong fan, but this is really not an issue. as a minor accusing an adult. Saying that he does not like fat girls because he likes girls that take care of their bodies. ", "Hes such a manly man (Alpha male) who really likes to exercise.". This is just my take so don't take it too seriously. aren. I didnt realize that Super Junior was actually a powerful group with super fans, and when I did realize, well to be honest I didnt care much. Lets meet surely after the. Super Junior is a Korean band formed in 2005 under SM Entertainment. My son booked a table for my birthday and we had an excellent meal and the restaurant made a special effort with my dessert. I want to become a person who thinks more righteoulsy, and make greater music. Register yourself now and be a part of our community! The ironic thing is that looking androgynous is actually exactly what taemin wanted to be nnnnnn thats literally his avant garde approach to his image ever since becoming a solo artist: breaking gender norms and the toxic expectation that men are masculine by default and those who also have feminine features arent real men. entertainment, news presenter | 4.8K views, 28 likes, 13 loves, 80 comments, 2 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from GBN Grenada Broadcasting Network: GBN News 28th April 2023 Anchor: Kenroy Baptiste. people in my circles seem legitimately surprised that ELF still exist, right before they turn judgmental. i was actually going to mention TVXQ on my point about age, but i figured it would be best to keep group mentions to a minimum. The problematic answer came during a conversation with a 14-year-long fan called A. Red Velvet Irene Net Worth 2023: How Rich Is Group's 'Daegu Ulzzang'? There's nothing in this to be mad about, twitter stans regardless of which fandoms creates issues out of non issues and this is one of them, though I'm not seeing any fellow Shawols of mine hating on him on tlist so it's probably just some edgy kpop stans hating on him. I dont know, but considering the current state of affairs in the Korean music industry they might notreally have much of a career left. I would hope that they use their fame to promote positive thoughts, but obviously not everyone thinks like that. you pay twice the serving price). The staff were reasonably friendly, the food however was a disgrace. allkpop is a registered trademark of 6Theory Media, LLC. A list of my current favourites and must watch Korean variety shows! Jane Krakowski. ), jan. 2021 took pictures with a nazi statue, sinb said sowons name in her phone was kitler which is a combination between sowons name and hitler, on a variety show the members were seen mocking african hairstyles by twisting their hair and making noises. yet this hate is steeped more in theperceptions of them, rather than who they are. 6 REASONS Super Junior Heechul Is Receiving Massive Hate in Korea Right Now Since he showed up, the male idol immediately attracted the attention of viewers after people noticed that he was. Did You Know? they think its a creepy thing to say that a man has feminine looks. The food was delicious and the service prompt and friendly. carn 17 subscribers Subscribe 206 11K views 1 year ago i made this powerpoint in 6 hours give or take bc i hate sending. Soju tastes sweet when your life gets bitter, In a parallel world where Super Junior actually are my friends, 'You're in your world and I'm caught in the middle'. If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. Why are you blaming super junior for a model that was hired by sm? In the process, I thought I need to hold responsibility for that and I need to think about such things. Nvis we love you. Ive seen a different side to Shindong thats warm, funny and talented, not a fat shaming pig. That statements doesn't sound problematic. That's so normal, we're human, Suju is human too. K-Media Reveals Why BLACKPINK Has Slower Comebacks Compared To Other Groups, 'Most Chill Fandom' Shawols Burst in Anger After SM Did THIS to SHINee. Just then, the male idol repeatedly made problematic remarks that made Korean netters' blood boil due to anger. [Round 1] Visual Battle Boy Groups: Super Junior, [theqoo] KPOP'S SUPER GROUP SUPERM NOMINATED FOR THE GRAMMYS. I dont know. the hate directed towards super junior is not like the hate directed towards twice, exo, or bts: the hate those artists receive is as a foil to their popularity. thats my goals., june 12 2017 namjoon posted photos of his debut hair, june 27 2017 during bon voyage jin in his letter to jungkook said that his face had gotten a lot darker during the trip so once they got back to korea he would give him a sheet mask to fix his skin, sept 21 during a knowing bros episode namjoon said he would have looked good with locs and so would one fo the men on the show, sept 22 2017 during the mic drop comeback dna performance jhope had braids. As part of my birthday week in Amsterdam me and my girlfriend decided to eat here one night. Definitely go! If you have a bunch of big oops moments like they have had, well resentment can follow. This along with acts of black face and homophobia generates more publicity for this group, regardless if its bad because there is no such thing as bad publicity. I hope people stop giving them so attention soon. Strangely, their music has not been transitioning with them. Such wheeling and dealing is not respectable to begin with - and contradicts the menu. Variety show Alcohol Street Fighter took down and re-uploaded an edited version of their video from YouTube after their MC, Super Junior's Heechul, fell under fire for a joke he had made on air.The issue started with an episode guest-starring boy group WINNER. 188. Do you think ELF would still be here if Suju always stay silent all this time? This can be read alone, however, will also be character profiles for an upcoming SKZ ft atz n mx Hogwarts AU. And she is not 14 she was 16 or 17 at the time. it's clear to me that people use morality as a cover-up rather than an actual reason, considering who they stan. bighit ended up releasing a statement saying they apologized for anyone who was offended and said they didnt purposely use the sample and that it happened because of the producer. From Teens to Stars: Where is EXO Sehun's Close Friend Da Eun Now After Drifting Apart Cause of Jealous Fans? If you would like to use all features of this site, it is mandatory to enable JavaScript. The restaurant is relatively big and seems to be short staffed with only 3 servers present. thank you. There's so many ppl who'd like to know the context, so I'll try my best to explain why knetz are angry with KHC. Leeteuk has also expressed his disapproval of girls who are fat not once, but twice. Great post! (Cont in thread) https://t.co/nbQxRuZqGC, Secondly, Heechul continued by expressing his support and close relationship with Bogyum, a Korean YouTuber who was known for being a misogynist. did not see a single shawol complaining about that statement, Most shawols were focusing on the fact that Taemin showed up at Sshindong's house to check on his editing lol, People are making things up at this point. Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. One of their strong point is without a doubt their speak, that's why they're called variety kings. Have you looked into how these specific comments and statements played out in the nation itself? The fact that some fans have an issue with Taemin looking feminine tells more about them than the person who pointed it out in a non-insulting way Dont have an account yet? He retweeted several homophobic tweets but then later apologized for it. Ive seen people use that argument againts fans as well. Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands. "At the very least, he wasn't a bad guy to me. So obviously I was not a kpop stan back then when suju was at its peak and it was still 2nd gen, and obviously I was not there to actually witness their "past issues". This review is the subjective opinion of a Tripadvisor member and not of Tripadvisor LLC. Super junior is problematic group. You are the one who protected me when i was in trouble. Fans also call it SuJu or SJ. allkpop is a registered trademark of 6Theory Media, LLC. Y'all funny. Heechul then admitted that Kangin truly f*cked up and that he deserved all the criticism he is getting. they do still bring in money to SM which is why SM invests money (no matter how little) into making them comeback. 20156 maanden. Seulgi said she met Kyuhyun once as a trainee and introduced herself to him, then she met him again a year later and he still remembered her name and she was so touched. Thats a far-fetched situation but im just speaking of the worst case scenario here \_()_/, Which is a pretty clear tell of what op thinks about someone being called androgynous ie. 60-61, 116, 278, 464, 489-490) | [Special MC] (Ep. They get shocked when they hear it from suju coz they are used to all other idols stick to safe topics to avoid netizen ire. insulting their body type won't help anyone. Like if you're going to criticise Super Junior, at least focus your attention towards the most problematic members like Leeteuk (mostly owing to his abused past and that Krystal incident). Fans have slammed the SM Entertainment artiste for his remark on gender-neutral clothing of Taemin where Shindong says, 'it's hard to tell if he's a guy or girl.' ADVERTISEMENT Although this online community for women doesn't have a good reputation, especially among K-pop fans, internet users think that it doesn't justify Heechul to swear and generalize the members. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. From all the actual problematic things they once said they picked a non-issue to get mad ? i don't even hate them i just try to ignore them as much as possible, but it's true that i don't really like them since they have been so problematic. He first clarified that they were close to each other. The girl was there with her mom, so hopefully she was safe. The fact that Shindong can say this on public television and think that, its okay. Maybe he poorly phrased it, or perhaps the translation wasn't the best, as it tends to happen and lead. Many Korean actors will be enlisting in the military this year. Netflix Korea unveils full line-up of their upcoming original series this 2023! We only took a few bites from the main dishes before we had realised we made the wrong decision. every group has done something or said something problematic. Amsterdam. This is the version of our website addressed to speakers of English in the United States. It honestly disgusts me so much when I hear people fat shaming, especially when the person who is doing the shaming is fat. For more information, please see our Members Seungyoon and Jinwoo were invited to dance to the popular TikTok dance, ZeroTwo, during a game corner. Zoom in to see updated info. however, a lot of kpop fans seem to think that super junior never got their come-uppens for their problematic behavior. So I don't get how you're twisting it like super junior are hitting on her. people like to throw out that term because it, 2. in this case, they know it's acceptable, 3. it provides some deniability. At the Noodle Cart: Korean edition [May 2020]. as long as they're behaving, let them stay (and this applies to everyone, regardless of age). Pinky_Peachy. Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. ive seen people calling out suju members for shit their own bias groups said/did, who theyre so quick to forgive but for suju, after literally a decade + members apologies, people still drag them. 13-14), (Ep. The idol also claimed that there's nothing wrong with the Bogyum's controversial signature phrase, "boiru" [bogyum + hairu (slang of 'hi')[ which is believed by many that it actually means "c*nt + hairu. though, i agree on the big bang point: there was a post i saw regarding them that also triggered this thread. #8. What the reactions were? i would say it comes down to #4, but a lot of groups have #4s and they don't receive the same amount of "it's okay to hate them"-treatment that super junior does. none of twice are minors or prepubescent. that ladys current issues to get a reason. Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. of one people of society by members of another and typically more dominant people or society, transphobic - having or showing dislike of or prejudice against transgender or transsexual people, homophobic - having or showing dislike of a prejudice against gay people, four days later jhope had braids again for a another micdrop performance, september 26 2019 jhope for his chiken noodle soup remake had gel twits and he also commissioned the album art which used rastafarian colors and what looked to be like locs. So really this entire post is just one big reflection on why them fading out of the public eye is really just a blessing. Liberty Global. but the thing is, suju suffers from bandwagon hate from edgy kpop fans.the number 1 thing people use against them is the problematic card. they messed up, big time, the stuff they did was absolutely horrific and bad, but i believe people change. The way posts about them in twitter, regardless of what it is about, is literally filled with thousands of quotes and replies showing displeasure and rage towards them really makes me wonder what they really did in the past to get these kinds of reception from kpop stans. however, i did want to point out, that in fandoms (kpop and beyond), perception often takes place of reality. Blue Pepper Restaurant And Candlelight Cruises. lol. I would unstan them if they're just like another typical cool boring idols the only problem with them is how many problematic things they did and said, and repeteadly over and over, the rest of the reasons are stupid. but yeah, shindong is hardly a pedophile. (LogOut/ Turns out Shindong is a sexist who fat shames. Everyoneis going to get old eventually. young women don't like lecherous old women. Ive never thought that way. izoniee Worldwide Phenom Reactions 2,050 Posts 4,028 entries 1 May 29th 2021 #9. he is really known problematic idol at his age. 20221 jaar. However, the waitress insisted that for a party of 4 they are only willing for us to select 2 rijstafels and pay for 3 servings (as a "favour", because of the younger girl). Super Junior is the only group acknowledged by World Health Organization, Why Shinee is successful charting on Melon but Super Junior had so much difficulty, Super Junior EVER.LASTING.FRIEND tag list. The chicken was pink (under cooked) and opaque. they refused to acknowledge that yoongi was seen mixing the speech himself and that he was one of the producers on the song, on a variety show namjoon joked about getting off to a book that depicted black woman as savages that also included a rape section (still being argued over with things like mistranslation or fake subs), oct 11 2017 jhope had braids again for a mic drop performance. i mean sure i get that, but op literally replied stop being creepy and delulu to this exact post: There's nothing wrong with being androgenous looking., Which is a pretty clear tell of what op thinks about someone being called androgynous ie. Simple: Anyway my time ignoring Super Junior was short lived when they released Mamacita (problematic yes I know) in 2014 and I realized I had accidentally liked two members of the group through other bodies of works theyve done. now, let me get this clear: this is not a "why you should like super junior" thread. interesting i so understand that certain members of SJ have gotten into issues before so therefore you don't like them correct? men are people too. I always found it strange that people use sujus age to drag them SO OFTEN, especially with all that super senior stuffkyuhyun is literally the same age as changmin and I never see this argument being used against tvxq. - Activation, budgeting & management of branded content, digital media, and paid social campaigns on VICE's channels across EMEA & APAC. Responsible for incident, problem and escalation process alignment between Ziggo, UPC and Liberty Global, collaboration with external and internal stakeholders, creation and updates of relevant process and project documentation. also having an homophobe in the group doesn't help to be honest. So now we blaming idols for producers and casting choices. In another interview he even went as far as to tell another singer she should lose weight before returning with more music. as an adult, i understand that some actions are more excusable than certain actions. All Rights Reserved. and no one wants to be called a pedophile. He likes this identity so I don't understand why you are trying to hate on someone who said what he saw. 2. super junior aren't popular -- this ties in a bit to the next point. Junior Campaign Manager. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Die Antwoord. Tripadvisor performs checks on reviews. Service was prompt and they were very friendly. The only thing that makes sense is number 4. [Hidden Singer] (Ep. this also is not a "these are the reasons why YOU dislike super junior" or "you are a bad person for disliking super junior" thread. "Of course, I can see why he is popular.
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