As I think I mentioned, I've never seen a 3rd gen 4Runner for 1st gen Tacoma that had a separate bracket for the caliper, so I while I can picture what you're talking about, I have never seen it on a truck. Having purchased OEM pads and shims, that means I first needed to assemble them, which is easy. Or give them to him for free. Your email address will not be published. Thanks for the info though. 1st Gen (1995-2004) 2nd Gen (2005-2021) 3rd Gen (Present) Land Cruiser. totally clueless as to why this is happening. This means that it takes more pedal travel to fill that caliper with brake fluid, thus applyting the brakes. All things 3rd generation 4runner! But, with answers to the questions above, I might be able to help give you some suggestions. If you try the 213mm calipers on a the 6 spoke OE wheels you will have to grind away at the back side of the wheels to accept the larger 213mm caliper. Montero Sport; Toyota 4Runner, FJ Cruiser, Sequoia, Tacoma, Tundra; FRONT $30.80 Cam Pulley Holder Camshaft Pulley Holding Tool Fit for Nissan Toyota Camry OHC Maximas V6 $16.98 Username or . The Tundra calipers are longer (and wider to accommodate the thicker rotor) so they have more brake pad area to grab the rotor. Then, slide the top pin through the caliper, pads, and spring at the same time. if you have the OE 6 spoke wheels you need to get the 199mm calipers (WG). Dang how'd you find out so quick! My Gen3 T4R Tundra brake upgrade was well worth it and wouldn't have done it without these! Also works perfectly with stock T4R calipers. I put together a page that lists wheels that are known to work with the Tundra Brake Upgrade. No matter, swaps on. As far as stepping on the brake pedal - I never had a problem stopping once with Tacoma brakes, it was the prolonged braking that I was after. If it's quicker, you can pick up springs from Toyota for ~$5 each. Not too shabby for an old guy. 3rd Gen 4Runner Tundra Brake Upgrade - YouTube They will be the brake upgrade our new Tundra gets as soon as it needs brakes Bgdv1, Jan 6, 2020 #5. Come back and verify that they work (or don't) if you don't mind! Trim as shown about 5mm off the middle, about 3cm off the upper and lower tips. that's awesome. I would think that Tundra dust shields would be just fine. As for whether you need the new lines or not - when you do the Tundra upgrade, you're introducing a caliper (13WL or 13WE) with more internal volume than the stock calipers. I finger tightened these first, and then torqued them right down to the speced 90 ft-lbs. Burn off volatiles and moisture from the resin that is near pad surface. (or 3rd gen 4Runner), Step by Step Tacoma Rear Drum Brake Shoe Replacement (also 4Runner), https://adventuretaco.com/product/4runner-stainless-steel-brake-lines-for-tundra-brake-upgrade/, https://adventuretaco.com/guide/step-by-step-tundra-brake-upgrade-on-a-tacoma-or-4runner/#bedding, https://adventuretaco.com/guide/step-by-step-tacoma-rear-drum-brake-shoe-replacement-also-4runner/, Toyota OEM Anti-Rattle Spring for 13WE, 13WL (47748-35010). Which Wheels Fit the Tundra Brake Upgrade? Rated 5.00 out of 5 based on 21 customer ratings. Bend the dust shield as necessary to prevent any rubbing. My suspicion is that they have larger brakes already. For even more background, check out this article. The best way to find out for sure is to ask over on TacomaWorld. Photos by Justin Fort and Jaime Hernandez. After the second cycle, the pedal will become noticeably firmer. Pad to pad, the Tundra unit offers at least 15 percent improvement in contact plus much more backing plate to better transfer heat away from the friction surface. Establishes a layer of transfer film about a few microns thick on the rotor surface. (or 3rd gen 4Runner) Hope that helps, but please do post what wheels you're planning to use! I've searched high and low for this issue. This may not be entirely necessary in all cases, but is good insurance to ensure a good break-in. And now, we've got amazing braking on the 4Runner. Hey Eric, The Napa descriptions are just wrong/inconsistent on their page. Hey Derek, I don't know about that specific wheel, but you can print out this template to see if they will clear though you'll need a wheel to test against, so hopefully you can get your hands on them locally. For anyone who purchases calipers and doesn't get the little Clips that are spread the pads apart, there are a couple options: 1. WallyT4R New Member. This writeup was completely helpful. However, if your pedal continues to move once it has firmed up, it means that you have something "compressible" (like air or water) in the system. Those calipers are both the same style (fixed) and are the correct ones (13WLs) for this upgrade! 3rd gen 4Runner Tundra brake upgrade. I wasnt able to find it in the reading. Installing Tundra Brakes on a 3rd Gen 4Runner - ADVENTURETACO Jan 28, 2021 at 12:53 PM #3 #3. Excellent support! For a bunch of reasons - which I covered last time - I once again decided to go OEM on this upgrade. The 1st gen tundra brake rotors are the same diameter but they are about 5mm thicker and weigh 5 lbs more. I've never had USPS lose (or not deliver) a kit, or wreck it in transit, but I'm sure there is always a possibility. And soon, so were the 4Runner wheels. A service bulletin (back-door recall) was issued for Tundras made through 2002, and lots of 199mm calipers were swapped for a larger, beefier and heavier 231mm unit that was OEM on later 2002 Tundras (as part of the mid-model redesign). https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/tundra-13wl-caliper-fitment-templates.492815/. Required fields are marked *, 4Runner Stainless Brake Lines (works with stock calipers or Tundra Brake Upgrade). Excellent customer service and shipping time! You can find Dremel-friendly cutoff discs at the swaps. 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There are two calipers from the first-generation Tundra that will bolt up to the gen-three (1996-02) 4Runner. Both do a much better job hauling 3900 lbs. Shearing of the film during friction is an effective source of friction force. !http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3r. Thank you, Any other recommendations ? Adding Tundra brakes to your 1st gen Tacoma (1996-2004) or 3rd gen 4Runner (1996-2002) is one of the easiest upgrades you can make. Brake fluid should be a very light honey color - almost clear. !http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/212605-frankenyota-build-thread.htmlThanks SO much for watching my videos!! Theres a bracket that holds the calipers to the wheel assembly, its separate from the caliper itself. Step by Step Tundra Brake Upgrade on a Tacoma (or 4Runner) It's borderline dangerous. This effect would reduce the performance and increase the wear. That said, 4Runners are still sloppy stoppers. In my experience, the calipers mount directly to the hub/spindle, and both the OEM calipers and Tundra (13WL or 13WE) calipers mount to the same holes. 2000 4Runner Limited upgraded with Power Stop KC2324 brake kit. If it happens that my wheels don't fit, I'll just install the 199mm. 3rd Gen 4Runner - YotaMafia I still have my stock calipers on the front , only changed the brake lines. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The 4Runner design is a much better design, and made this part of the process go much easier. Install the bottom pin that secures the pads to the caliper by sliding it through holes that align on the two components. You bet your pasty white ass there is. Genius frequently needs a nudge for inspiration to hook, and in a moment the Tundra swap was born. Easy to install and paired well with my Tundra upgraded calipers on my 3rd Gen 4runner. I know some FJ cruisers had this wheel and some newer 4runners but the only thing I could find was mention of a FJ 5 spoke wheel that would fit with a spacer but not picture confirmation or anything. A big brake kit is going to give you a larger braking system (large 350-370x34mm rotors, 6-piston calipers vs. 4-piston calipers, and larger pads), a better braking pad/rotor compound, and so much more. Very important to go stainless steel once you have the larger caliper so that you dont get sponge brakes. Much easier than I thought, the information in the post was spot on. . Which Wheels/Rims Fit the Tundra Brake Upgrade (13WL 231mm rotors) on a Tacoma? Oh, and there was the time that the driver side caliper stuck - we got a nice wobble at 45mph and a smell "to die for" that let us know that something was "a bit off.". The blue tint tells you the rotor has reached break-in temperature and the gray film is pad material starting to transfer onto the rotor face. !https://www.zazzle.com/store/crossfitoftheozarks------------------Facebook!https://www.facebook.com/bryanhoodofficial/------------------Blog Site!https://www.hoodlm.org Note 3: Depending on the pads you are using, the brakes may begin to fade slightly after the 7th or 8th near-stop. 4th Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (2003-2009) 3rd Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (1996-2002) 2nd Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (1990-1995) 1st Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (1984-1989) . Appreciate the guides you have up here, all very thoroughly detailed. Junkyard calipers and rotors will need to be examined closely for defects. This list of steps is just that - a list of steps (which makes it a great resource to print off and reference when you're doing the job). Once I'd done that, it was a simple matter of installing the spring clamps to hold them in place and then using the flare nut wrench to re-attach the hard brake line to the caliper and the 12mm socket to reattach the brake line bracket to the spindle. In Tacoma's and 4Runner's, that is passenger rear, driver rear, passenger front, driver front. My parcel was lost in the mail and Dan sent me another! For me, it's rubbed one of six times. This is due to ever-changing structures and properties of the two mating materials. Any difference when stepping on the brake pedal? The 4Runner brake line will screw into the Tundra caliper (dont forget your flare wrenches and brake cleaner). Fluid will shoot out, so cover the line port. In this situation, since we've only messed with the front lines - and assuming you didn't drain the reservoir under the hood in the process - we will only do the passenger front and driver front, in that order. I really do love this Milwaukee impact wrench. Fit perfectly with my 3 lift. First, locate the bracket that holds the brake line to the spindle. I'm sure this may be a longshot, but I was wondering if there is anyone in the Raleigh/Durham area that has a 3rd GEN 4runner with tundra brakes? SRQ Fabrications offers a complete 5100/OME lift kit that includes OME coil springs, Bilstein 5100 struts and shocks for the front and back. Stops much better than my wife's sr5. And, the 4Runner really needed this. 2 Remanufactured Tundra 13WL calipers. With all the parts removed, there's one step before installation of the new parts - and that's cutting the dust shield a bit so that the new rotor and calipers fit. Can you clarify the Napa eclipse part #s? Who makes good replacement brake shoes? 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Tundra brake upgrade - Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum 12mm - to remove the brake line from the bracket on the spindle. If you'd like to add insurance to you order, you can. Have a catch basin or shop rags positioned below the bleeder to catch brake fluid that comes out of the bleeder, or fit a clear plastic tube over the bleeder that funnels the brake fluid into a container, in order to keep things clean. Thanks Dan! Finally got around to doing the Tundra brake upgrade on my 3rd Gen 4Runner Stainless Brake Lines for Tundra Brake Upgrade