This flight by the 93rd was the first nonstop flight across the North Atlantic by American bombers. (Thanks to B24bestoweb). Missions were flown against the Italian cities of Leghorn, Pisa and Lucca. Donate History is who we are and why we are the way we are.. While the living conditions in Libya were atrocious, at least the crews encountered less fighter opposition there than over occupied Europe. The 329th squadron had remained in England, working with an experimental program. As the remnants of the 93rds two sections drew away from the target, they were attacked by fighters. Unit stations People Aircraft Mission Login to Edit Revisions Date 17 Feb 2022 09:18:01 Fighter Groups Non-Commercial educational use for the purpose of teaching and instruction, including internal training. I saw a picture of the headstone of his grave on findagrave.com. Although no submarines were attacked during the 330ths service with that group, Major Ramsay Potts crew was jumped by five German Junkers Ju-88s during one mission. Kind Regards England, 7 Mar 1944; Bretigny, France, Sep 1944; Laon/Couvron, France, On October 8, one month after arriving in England, the 93rd flew its first missionto the Lille-France Steelworks on the Franco-Belgian border. Thank you for your email earlier in the year. Range: 2,850 miles (4587km). Contact Us, If you have any data on servicemen and their units and would like to submit it to our digital library; please Contact Us, Copyright, Army Air Corps Library and Museum, Inc., All Rights Reserved. There are (2523) servicemen of the 93rd BG in this archive. defenses, V-weapon sites, airdromes, and other targets in France, Apr-Jun My stepmother lived in Stud Farm opposite St Margarets and, apart from a couple of long standing families in Church Road, dont remember much beyond that. It even listed his rank and squadron number (748). Hi again Roger This is more about local history than anything else, as an ancestor of mine , name of Atkins, was 643d: Use on websites that are primarily information-led, research-oriented and not behind a paywall. Lieutenant Colonel George S. Brown, who had been in the formation over Ploesti with Baker, was assigned as interim commander until Colonel Leland G. Fiegel could arrive from the United States to take command of the group. Missions were flown in support of Allied troops in North Africa. The Liberators gunners managed to shoot down two of the enemy fighter-bombers and damage a thirdthe other two broke off their attack. I am contacting you as I am currently working on a WWII series and would love to ask you some specific questions about plane crashes from the US Eighth air force. He turned Hells Wench 90 degrees to the left, away from the lead group, and headed for Ploestiwith all 38 Traveling Circus planes strung out behind. I visited Halstead on Thursday by bus. in service at Halstead Place in the early nineteenth century. The footage of you flying was terrific as well. Africa in 1943-44 with the 512th Bomb That was followed by a mission to Danzig on October 9 and a diversion for the famous B-17 mission against the ball bearing factories at Schweinfurt on October 14. Ammunition was flying everywhere. The remainder were killed.. Sgt James C. Hilty, ball turret gunner, survived Richard. Museum, Willow Run Airport, Michigan - photo by Janet I was living in Orpington and in the winter of 1943 / 4 was taken to see a crashed B17 but not near Curry Wood. The Shoulder patches (except the AAF Decal) are offered in multi-layer leather format. Four days later, 18 B-24s left Newfoundland and landed in Prestwick, Scotland, after flying through 8_ hours of thunderstorms, ice and strong winds. Four of the crew were able to bail out and survived. Those three combat wings grew out of the 93rd Bombardment Groupthe first B-24 group and the third U.S. Army Air Forces heavy-bomber group to see combat in the European Theater of Operations. Dad lived in Beldam Haw in the 1930s and 40s, firstly in no. B-24 Liberator cockpit. On October 1, the Traveling Circus went back to Weiner-Neustadt on a mission again led by Timberlake. Both Halstead pubs shut. theater during World War II. Colonel Baker, with Major Jerstad in the co-pilots seat, saw Compton make the turn and recognized the mistake, as did others in the 167-plane formation. 1943-1945. 93rd Training Squadron, Robins AFB, Ga. 3. Later I lived in Stonehouse Road and occasionally attended Evensong at St.Margarets. The groups operations officer, K.K. Eighth Air Force . - Diaper bags since dad was assigned to different crews when their gunner was unable to fly cant really find imformation. Ramsay Potts Section B bombed Astro Romania, the largest oil producer in Europe, a target originally assigned to the 98th. For the remainder of the war, the 93rd was involved in Eighth Air Force operations flying out of England. When that assignment ended, the squadron flew missions with the newly arrived 44th Bomb Group. Link to full-size photo: B-24 Liberator 93rd Bomb Group in flight Site statistics: Photos of World War II: over 26800 aircraft: 63 models tanks: 59 models vehicles: 59 models guns: 3 models units: 2 ships: 47 WW2 battlefields - 12 About The squadron is equipped with the Rockwell B-1B Lancer bomber. The 32th Bomb Squadron, and the 330th Bomb Squadron and and the 409th Bomb Squadron flew to the initial station at Tafarouri, Algeria, but the field there was not suited for the heavy bombers, and they only conducted two missions from that field. Restoration Australia. if so I would like to know your source as I do not have a pic of my site despite many enqs,thanks. I am so grateful that Im nearly at a loss for words. Ilse and I walked along Beldam Haw on Monday and I looked N. across the crash field which is divided into blocks by barbed wire. Unfortunately, my father passed away two years ago so Im unable to check whether this was the crash to which he was referring. Stations. Squadron. sites and has not been amended, although links Will have a look and drop you a line if I find anything. The pilot, Lt. Howard F. Bolton, named the aircraft for his father, "The Moose," and decorated his A-2 jacket with the bomb-carrying panda squadron insigne, bomb symbols for 35 missions flown, and other artwork. bridges, communications, and other objectives. Constituted as 391st Bombardment Group (Medium) on 15 January 1943 and activated on 21 January Trained with B-26's for duty in Europe with Ninth Air Force. Boomerang was the first B-24 to complete 50 missions. The bombers had been recalled due to bad weather but 42-97236 while climbing into formation, encountered a heavy downdraft and the plane went into a dive. The 93rd had thus far escaped severe damage from the enemy, but the 44th began taking heavy casualties from the onset of operations. Length: 66 ft. 4 in (20.22). B-24 Liberators in formation, returning from mission. . Sgt Leroy L. Logan, engineer / upper turret gunner, killed Gordijnen maken cursus dactylodewaele. Section A, led by Colonel Baker, was to hit target White Two, the Concordia Vega refinery; Section B, led by Ramsay Potts, was to hit White Three, the Standard and Unirea Spearantza refining units. 328th Bomb Squadron - 329th Bomb Squadron - 330th Bomb Squadron - 409th Bomb Squadron, Search Alphabetically: A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z |, PLEASE SUPPORT THE 8AF.ORG PROJECT! 'Lucky These sort of discrepancies are not that uncommon. Salvaged after a mid-air collision The info I have is that Uncle Roy died April 21, 1944. Pilot was flying on instruments in clouds when the aircraft hit violent prop wash, throwing the aircraft into a dive. The aircraft crashed in farmland near Park Farm which is about one mile east of the village of Hoxne in Suffolk. 93rd Bombardment Group in World War II. and occupied by sheep. ea. The most-produced heavy bomber in history. Restoration Australia for the drawings above. right waist and tail (2)] plus a normal maximum load In May, the group began operating in support of the upcoming invasion of occupied Europe, bombing targets in France and Belgium. By that time, the group had flown nine missions, including attacks on submarine pens at Saint-Nazaire and two missions to Lorient. BE and comments may have been added. Boomerang went on to become the most famous Liberator in the Eighth Air Force. Colonel Fiegel had been with the 93rd in the United States and remained in command of the Traveling Circus until after D-Day. He lived there all his life literally born and died in the village. After a few days of rest for the pilots and repair for the planes, the Traveling Circus resumed operations on September 1. Good luck with your research and I will Keep Lt Reed in mind when I am doing work ok on my Shazam project 8. 93rd Bombardment Group 329th Bomb Squadron. Finally, the three Eighth Air Force B-24 groups were allowed to return to England. If ever this way look us up. c. 6 Oct-7 Nov 1945. - Alcohol When they attempted to land, they realised that the apparent airstrip was a sandbank and crashed. Please note that your data will be managed in the US by the American Air Museum in Britain charity. Consequently, the B-24 was underutilized in the strategic bombing role in Europe. Ted's Traveling Circus - The Traveling Circus. Missions were flown to Rotterdam, Antwerp, Brest and Bordeaux in the spring of 1943, along with several diversions for B-17 groups. YM - 409th Bomb Squadron. . You live in a very nice part of the Norfolk coast.I am a Norfolk Dumpling myself although I now live in exile at Peterborough. bomb group. 'Exterminator', This feature also made the airplane suitable for It looks as though we have come to the end of the road regarding our research although I will continue to check the internet from time to time just in case any further info. Heavy parts of the plane were said to be deeply embedded in the ground and were not recovered. RAF Glatton with some photos from when 457 BG was based there. She lived in Knockholt. Even though there is a wealth of information online, its always good, like you have mentioned, to note that there are mistakes to wade through as well. Army of me lyrics christina aguilera. They claimed 3 U-Boats destroyed. It was sad to hear of his death. Christmas celebrations during theSecond World Waroften had to be scaled down or adjusted as restrictions and shortages took their toll. Also here (http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/B-24/B-24_Flight_Manual.pdf). I visited the Forum in Norwich on Saturday and made some enquiries about the crash at Walcot but without any success. * Firearms, to include conceal carry and other dangerous weapons, are specifically prohibited in Federal facilities in accordance with 18 USC 930 (c) Google search for more B-24 Colonel Timberlake and Major Addison Baker led in Teggie Ann, which was also the groups lead ship on subsequent raids. That part of the country is not the geographical area I usually cover, but I will take a look at the resources and books I have this evening and will get back to you if I find anything. as the famous raid from North Africa against the Oldest B-24 Bomb Group in 8th Air Force When the Tidal Wave survivors got back to their bases in Libya, 11 of the 93rd Liberators were missingalmost one-third of those dispatched from the group had failed to return. 93rd Bombardment Group Marker (Red arrow) seen in the Memorial Gardens, 7. My father told me about how he met my mother. Bill is an expert in locating records of downed flyers from fighter groups, fighter squadrons, bomb groups, bomb squadrons, reconnaissance units, combat cargo units, or other units which were part of the Air Force in World War II. Alconbury and Hardwick, England North Africa: Three Tours WWII Strategic Bombing 1942 - 1945 Thank you for letting us know. I did find two pictures of Alfred 11 but there were no photos of the crash site. Because there was a vast amount of small fragments we decided to cease detecting on that field. (U.S. Air Force photo), Lt. Howard F. Bolton piloted a B-24J assigned to the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group, based at Hardwick, England. In late June 1943 the Group was once again sent TDY to the 9th Air Force at Bengazi, Libya, for Operation Tidal Wave. any help appreciated. On 15 May 42. the Group moved to Ft. Myers, Florida, to continue advanced flight training and also to fly antisubmarine patrols over the Gulf of Mexico. The prospect of a low-altitude mission was frightening to the men of the Traveling Circus. More than 18,000 Liberators were produced. When you have time, look at http://www.thanksgivingfield.org and open up the Uplifting Guide and Mission 115Z PDFs. I am looking into a crash that occurred during WW2 that happened near Kirkham village. Veterans History Project Service Summary: War or Conflict: World War, 1939-1945. Some of the most important trucking missions were flown in support of General George Pattons Third Army during its breakout from Avranches and the subsequent dash across France. The group had been constituted in January 1942, after America's entry into the war, and was activated at Barksdale Field, Louisiana in March. Does anyone know anything about a 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group (Heavy)B-24H-25-FO Liberator Gypsy Queen Serial# 42-95024 possibly crashed on the afternoon of 5 November 1944 at Shipmeadow, Suffolk (between Beccles and Bungay. 'Naughty Nan', Arriving at Tunis on September 18, the Traveling Circus began operations in support of the Fifth Army in Italy, as well as strategic bombing missions. Dropmasters from the Ninth Air Force Troop Carrier Command replaced waist gunners on missions in which bundles of supplies rigged for parachute drop replaced the bombs normally carried. 93rd Bombardment Group 330th Bomb Squadron, 12. On October 8, 1943, the 93rd went to Vegesack again. However I am afraid she was unable to add to the info I have about about Shazam nor did she have any suggestions as to where any photos may be obtained in regards the crash of Alfred 11. Hope this answers your immediate questions and provides a basis for further research. Commanding Officers Connections See how this entry relates to other items in the archive by exploring the connections below. Unit of Service: 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group. William B Musselwhite Commanding Officer 10/15/42 thru 3/13/42.http://www.afhra.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=10618, Drawn from the records of the National Museum of the Mighty Eighth Air Force, Savannah, Georgia / Paul Andrews, Project Bits and Pieces, 8th Air Force Roll of Honor database / Units in the UK from ETOUSA Station List, as transcribed by Lt. Col. Philip Grinton (US Army, Retired) and extracted by IWM; air division data from L.D. Then, after the Afrika Korps was pushed out of Africa, the B-24s were sent against Italian targetsNaples, Palermo and Messina. I found a detailed reference to 42-3351 though there are not many! Supported ground forces The newly arrived Liberator group attained a reputation as a hard-luck outfit, and took to calling themselves the Flying Eight Balls.. long over-water missions in the Pacific Theater. Any help would be most greatly appreciated. I moved from Norwich in 1964 although I have been going back on a regular basis as most of my remaining family and some friends live there. He was someone I saw when I was staying in Knockholt. The U.S. 93rd Bomb Group saw action over Western Europe, North Africa, Italy and Rumania. Thank you again. Hardwick, England. They had good reason to be fearful. Although it notes that Sergeant Logan was one of the fatalities, it lists the 3 survivors as including a radio operator called Lloyd Larson and yet makes no mention of Lt Peacock. 8th Air Force, The parents of the crew had a wooden church built on the crash site. Can I help? Granpa and Granma also lived at Edgehill. Roger. - Box cutters On June 25, 1943, after two weeks of low-level training over England, the 93rd departed for Benghazi, Libya, along with the 44th and 389th. If ever I get down that part of the country I shall try to pin down the exact spot and add a photo of it. i am looking for info of 2 b17,s colliding over Braintree Essex around 1945 as i live not far from were the tail section fell the other B17 got back ok .I am looking for any info of details were the tail fell. Like the 44th, the fledgling 93rd was equipped with the four-engine B-24 Liberator heavy bomber. And heard talk of Douglas Blundell, and the people who lived at Colgates. Ian. Kind regards The details you have provided dont match anything in The Mighty eighth War Diary book. The aircraft crashed at 14:55 hrs at Park Farm, Hoxne, Suffolk. Have been to 306th Museum but no details held. Returned to the US, Jun-Aug 1945. Comes to light. Memorial at Hardwick Airfield. What people are saying - Write a review. The name of your brother is familiar to me but I dont think I knew him. and participated in the Battle of the Bulge (Dec 1944-Jan 1945) by Walton rang my aunt in Orpington, one night to say the plane had come down (hinT: Id be interested!). B24 Liberator Audio and Video files at Marshall Stelzriede's Wartime Story site. oil industry at Ploesti, Rumania on August 1, 1943. Can you gie me any information on the crash of a USAAF P47 Razor back THunderbolt near the Blackbrook Reservoir (Shepshed Leicestershire)Around the end of the second world war) ? Several were diversions, missions flown against less important targets to draw fighters away from B-17 formations. Luke', Air Offensive, Europe; Normandy; Northern France; Rhineland; Combined two entries for the 93rd Bomb Group into a single entry. As they got there, the fuel eventually ran out. Group prepares for a mission. In the meantime join our Facebook group. when I visit the Forum. (Thanks to England on Flickr). When I was a schoolboy in the 40s (I,m in my eighties now) and attended Margaretting C E school in Essex. Superfortress 44-61999 Over-Exposed! air crash site on Bleaklow, Aviation Archeological Research and Investigation, https://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/AARmonthly/May1945O.htm, http://www.americanairmuseum.com/aircraft/12924, http://www.parhamairfieldmuseum.co.uk/390th-bomb-group/interesting-information-and-facts/, https://aircrewremembrancesociety3.com/Aircraft-Losses/USAAF-Losses/U.S.A.A.F.Losses-1943/page-49/, All photos and text are aircrashsites.co.uk unless otherwise stated. www.93rd-bg-museum.org, Liberator Staff Sergeant Leo L. Henry Nose Gunner. Where might I find that info? A family member recently received a letter from the Cambridge Cemetery. - The insignia of the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group. It was pointing north. shop at Park Corner which now sells logs and venison). Advertisement He was killed in action on Aug. 1, 1943, when the B . Highest Rank: Second Lieutenant. I had a hunch that the plane might have come from Podington in Beds, now the site of the race track Santa Pod.I Corresponded with Dearborn about this,but there was no way of getting to the site. Pages 1-57 Duties and Responsibilities, and more 340th Bomb Group (M) 344th Bomb Group. Supported Third Army's advance toward Germany, Aug-Nov 1944, operating Sgt Joseph T. Paddock, radio operator, killed HQs Source: www.456fis.org/B-24-A.htm .). Hi Roger Bean Inactivated on 7 Nov 1945. Its close to a river and is in a small wood. 93rd Bombardment Group In Memory Of 10. - Service animals The 396th Bombardment Group is a former United States Army Air Forces unit. I remember Mr Rushen, who coppiced the wood by Randles Lane. Pilots ordered the gunners to engage the flak towers while they hugged the ground to spoil the anti-aircraft gunners aim. Would you happen to know the name of the landholder where you found the pieces of the plane? You should be able to purchase a full accident report from this site. 8AF HQs; Bomber Groups; Fighter Groups; Stories; About; Newsletter; 93rd Bombardment Group. in April 1943. Military Aircraft Ramp New Mexico B-24 Liberators of the 93rd Bomb Group lined up at Sandia, New Mexico, 1946. Opposition en route and over the target was heavy; one B-24 was shot down and a second was forced to land at another base in England. Links Survivor of the first raid on the Ploesti oil refinery complex. The 93rd is also recognized as the most traveled group in the Eighth. Corrected Barksdale location from Florida to Louisiana. Used A-20's in preparing for duty overseas. Pickel), (Source: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/). Weapons. The pilot tried to recover too fast, causing too much stress on the tail section which broke off at the tail wheel. I am researching Shazam on behalf of the Costessey Memories Group which is attached to the Costessey general library. Hells Wench struck a balloon cable, then received a direct hit from an 88mm anti-aircraft gun. You state you have a fair amount of material re your crash would that include a pic of the crash site ? Over the target, the German fighters bypassed the accompanying B-17s to concentrate their attacks on the B-24s. The 9th Bomb Squadron is a squadron of the United States Air Force. Hi Roger Bomber Groups Branch of Service: Army Air Forces/Corps. The next day, the group was alerted for another deployment to Africa, this time to Tunis. Bomber Groups First a few words Also, would you happen to know the name of the local newspaper there, or a source that may have more documentation of the actual crash? I do have seven pictures of the crash site which were obtained from the website called To Honor Our Fallen. I remember Grosvenor Aslachsen being Rector. The group marking was a yellow triangle painted on the tail fin of their B-26s. 351st Bombardment Group (H) (Plaque) 351st Bombardment Group (H) (Monument) "Manhattan Maiden" - B-24 of the 374th Bomb Squadron. [MORE], Home Copyright20062023,Somerightsreserved. with 42-94969 on the 21 Sep 44 mission to Koblenz and crashing Total. April 1998-December 2000, Airborne Weapons Officer, 12th Airborne Command and Control Squadron, Robins AFB, Ga . Thank you again so much for responding! The Traveling Circus crews worked with crews from newly arrived B-24 groups, teaching them the rudiments of combat flying. 93rd Bombardment Group , 482 Bombardment Group, 389 Bombardment Group, 11. Free exhibitions held in venues, which do not charge an entry fee. Just starting quest to contact any living relatives and invite to memorial plaque unveiling in our village. bomb group. He had so many stories about growing up there. My aunt was active in Knockholt WI. Mission Support Group, responsible for directing and leading more than 450 personnel in six squadrons and . The plane was returning from a raid on the Karlsruhe railway marshalling yards. Before that they were at oakdene on Rushmore Hill,Knockholt. 8, 1944 at Bracon Ash. Object Number - FRE 5084 Command of the Traveling Circus itself had passed to Addison Baker, now a lieutenant colonel. Frank Towler and I reached the plane, the guns had been removed. He enlisted in the U.S. Army on September 13, 1944 at Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Kind regards. First Bomb Squadron (329th) to penetrate German airspace 2 Jan 43 All text within quotes " " is from other Newsletter Weight: 56,000 lbs (25 UK tons, 25.4 tonnes). The ground echelon departed for the U.K. on the Queen Elizabeth on 31 Aug 1942, and the air echelon moved to Grenier Field, New Hampshire, and was refitted with B-24Ds. Note also that the entry from the 457 Bomb Group Assn states that the aircraft broke up with bits falling in the fields near Glatton. Hoxne and Park Farm on Ordnance Survey mapping. Richard Storr, Thanks Richard for your time and efforts..please keep me informed. He and Jerstad jettisoned their bombs so that the mortally wounded B-24 would stay airborne just a few moments longer. The 93rd reached its Hardwick base on August 27. Other missions were flown in support of the Allied advance in Sicily. II between 1943 and 1945. parts (PDFs) to make it easier to download. Wasnt Halstead Place owned/built by Barnaby Atkins? Princess Risborough. 1996 - World War, 1939-1945 - 452 pages. When I contacted the American Battle Monuments Commission I was told of some books that had been written about American aircraft losses during the war. and Video files at Marshall Stelzriede's Wartime Story RAF Glatton is about 6 miles south of the town of Peterborough. After initial training in the Liberator, the new 93rd moved to Fort Meyers, Fla., for advanced training prior to deployment overseas. Until December, the group operated primarily against submarine pens along the French coast along the Bay of Biscay . [MORE], Home The plane was returning from a raid on the Karlsruhe railway marshalling yards. and enjoy the experience. In addition all bags are subject to search and may be placed through an X-Ray machine. "The Flyin' Moose" was a B-24J assigned to the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group, based at Hardwick, England. Mary Packman,s daughter was my Grandma,Janet Towler who studied at Homerton College,Cambridge, and died in 1966 in a house in Stonehouse Road, Halstead. From Libya, the three Eighth Air Force Liberator groups began flying missions against targets in Italy, where Allied ground forces were making their way toward Rome. Does anyone know about a P38 that crashed in Water Lane, Cobham, Surrey on 16th March 1944? 31st may 1945 B-17G 43-38919 561BS 388BG station 136 8AF KCR(killed in crash) Pilot Metz, Walter B ENGland Barningham/ 1mi SE, can order crash report from site that will probably list crew and likely other casulties. Since there were more B-17 than B-24 groups in England, tactics in the Eighth Air Force were built around the Flying Fortress. Colonel Brown later became chief of staff of the Air Force. One 93rd airplane was lost, but the 44th had its usual bad luck and took the most casualties. The Group flew 396 missions in 8,169 sorties and dropped 19,004 tons of bombs with 100 aircraft MIA. Subscribe to receive our weekly newsletter with top stories from master historians. The aircraft was a B-17G Flying Fortress serial number 42-97236. Do you have any info on B17 crash at Bovingdon herts 1942-3 on a weather check flight, Visited site years ago and found some parts. 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